[Smartphones-userland] Ideas for a flexibe zhone-session replacement
luca at pca.it
Thu Sep 4 23:24:25 CEST 2008
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:55:09 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 22:36 +0200 schrieb Luca Capello:
>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:57:42 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
>> > The zhone-session init script becomes a non-zhone-specific display
>> > (non)manager. Differences to the current script:
>> > * Does _not_ pass a session script to /etc/X11/Xsession
>> IIRC we directly passed a session script because we don't provide an
>> x-session-manager alternative, like openbox does. And in our specific
>> case we wanted to do more than simply starting a window manager (the
>> x-window-manager alternative being the second choice in
> Right. But neither x-session-manager nor x-window-manager is being used
> if ~/.xsession exists.
>> > * The session can be started as a different user by modifying a file
>> > in /etc/defaults, for those who know what to do.
>> > The installer.sh will install the current content
>> > of /usr/bin/zhone-session as /root/.xsession, so that after a fresh
>> > installation, people have the same behaviour.
>> I'd avoid this and instead define the 'root' user in /etc/$FOO.conf.
> Avoid what exactly? Having the session in a users’s .xsession file
> installed by the installer instead of a package? Or fixing the user name
> by the installer?
Bingo! Actually, I should have separated my reply, sorry. It should
have been "I'd avoid installing stuff into /root/, going instead for a
>> However, if we go along this path, I'd go completely, i.e. a normal user
>> should be created as well. And then this user should be the default in
> Right, but needs (some) more work and thought, e.g. with the dbus
> security files.
>> This is not really a disadvantage: if necessary (IMHO not), we can do
>> all the necessary stuffs in ndm's postinst. However, I'd put all the
>> informations in the zhone-session package (since this one should
>> automatically pull ndm) and in the wiki.
> Hmm, putting something in a user’s directory in postinst?
Managed by a debconf question? The problem here is that in any case
something should be done in postinst, either for root or johndoe.
Otherwise after having installed ndm if no x-session-manager or
x-window-manager is installed the user ends up with a plain xterm (which
IMHO should be an ndm's dependecy, so at least X cat start). Without
any input option, since matchbox-keyboard-toggle is not started.
ndm is different from any other *dm since it's should be configured for
a specific user *when* it's being installed.
> Also note that there is no reason for a zhone-session package at all any
> more. The init script becomes the ndm package, and the session script
> becomes part of the inital setup in install.sh. Only the
> matchbox-keyboard-toggle script has to go somewhere...
I'd provide a zhone-session transitional package to smooth upgrades.
About matchbox-keyboard-toggle, this can become a bit more general,
something like "freerunner-aux-button-toggle" and then we can also
provides "freerunner-power-button-toggle", whose action is configurable
> I hope this makes my ideas clearer,
Actually, your first mail was very clear, maybe the heavy rain here in
Geneva confused my fingers and my brain wasn't correctly connected :-D.
Gismo / Luca
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